Monday, July 30, 2012

IGN Players chime in on Dust 514


 We've spent the last few weeks getting opinions from players from the IGN community in-game and out, regarding Dust 514. These players recently got beta access from a number of different avenues and are important because they represent a more mainstream gamer. As a matter of fact, its our opinion that if the game is able to retain the massive amount of FPS players in the gamerverse, and it can, in addition to the more hardcore gamers, these are the kinds of players that it will also have to enjoy CCP's efforts.



Its not often you find players that aren't enamored with the scope and potential of what Dust 514 is trying to accomplish. At there core gamers want developers to push the envelope, so they root for the game to succeed as a whole. And in truth, its as ambitious a concept as you'll find, how this concept is implemented is where the game will ultimately succeed. 

When access for IGN Prime members was announced, the excitement in their community was palpable. Most comments and feedback ranged from "We cant wait to get in" , "I can't wait to download it" and "Finally, i've been waiting so long for this." to a few that were simply jealous they weren't prime members and wouldn't have access.

After getting into the beta many players maintained their excitement and enjoyment of the game some, however were somewhat disappointed in the beta state "I found the beta to be unenjoyable in its current state", "unimpressed. it just wasn't all that great" and "FPS mechanics are poor" were the comments we saw over and over.

After more players got into the beta the feedback varied a great deal, there were plenty of "its a good game and has loads of potential" "I was in the beta last week and was severely underwhelmed by it" to some players being baffled by character creation and "for an FPS it lacks too many fundamentals" we also saw plenty of the ever-present "Definitely needs alot of work, but I see the potential". Many players went into detail about the learning curve:
"There is literally so much already it's enough to make someone's head explode. I can't wait to see how much more stuff is added and refined by time the Beta goes public, or better releases to everyone." "Agreed. It took me two days to get my head on straight in Dust." still there were some that came away unimpressed "Waste of time. Sure it's the Beta. Too bad it's the fundamental game build that is trash and not changeable features that could be patched out."

In the end we're hopeful but we hope that the implications that the game's core mechanics will be improved a great deal is true. Each build has improved the game a great deal and this has to continue, the beta forums have been a constant stream of complaints about the core mechanics. Sub-par FPS mechanics simply won't cut it in this day and age. Dust's selling point must be its quality, depth, scope and revolutionary concept, not the fact that its F2P.


101 comments:

  1. "FPS mechanics are poor.."

    Its a brainless FPS, you point the reticule and click the fire button.

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  2. good read. possum i think they mean compared to many of the more popular games.

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  3. solid job. i agree that its a beta but it needs to improve.

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  4. Wow that fetus doesnt have a neck.
    Wow that fetus doesnt have fingers.
    Wow that fetus doesnt have legs
    Wow that fetus doesnt have a thingy or a thangy

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    1. This fetus is 3+ years old and, to sue you metaphor, it has no heart.
      Even if it gets legs, fingers, and a neck it will not live.
      Really PlanetSide 2 is a FPS MMO as well and won 13 E3 2012 awards...and they demonstrated an alpha build at E3.
      How many awards Did Dust won with the beta build? ZERO
      It's not just IGN users: it's the entire world that doesn't see Dust 514 as a good MMO FPS/VG!

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    2. It won 3: Best Shooter, Best Free-to-Play, and Best PC Exclusive. Not sure if that was a typo or massive exaggeration! ;) Only 2 apply to Dust, but really, you think EVE has no heart based on what? Isn't hanging around this website a bit like flogging a dead horse for you?

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    3. Nope Planetside 2 did win 13 awards

      http://www.planetside2.com/news/e3-2012-awards

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  5. The negative comments are not surprising. A lot of gamers are not use to beinig in a actual beta. CCP will get it right no doubt just take a look at eve nuff said. Good read bruce.

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  6. The negative comments are not surprising. A lot of gamers are not use to beinig in a actual beta. CCP will get it right no doubt just take a look at eve nuff said. Good read bruce.

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  7. Good thing they are not targeting the average gaming crowd and are going for the more serious gamers.

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    1. doesnt matter sam, this game will need a large player base to survive. IF the core FPS mechanics are poop then no one other than the blind fanboys will waste time on the game and currently the core FPS mechanics need work.

      @ Bully ur not thinking straight. Yea u can say look at EVE but this ISNT EVE. This is also CCP's 1st FPS and 1st console game, sayin they will get it right just because of a completely different game on a completely different platform makes no sense.

      If CCP needs to hire more FPS console experts then so be it but they themselves so far have not been gettin it right

      -Mavado

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    2. @Mavado you are right except for one tiny part. This dust is being made for Eve Online players. Its an expansion to Eve Online, CCP is making this game for hardcore shooters. Always remember the Eve fanbase are paying customers. Without Eve Online there is no CCP. The Eve community along with myself fully expect the console gamers to run to the next new shiny shooter that comes out after Dust. Hardcore shooter gamets, along with the eve online community will support dust hence why im not worried, I mean the people fly out to iceland every year now thats hardcore.

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    3. Making a shooter for the EVE community doesn't make it a hardcore shooter! Most of my games are shooters I'm a DIE HARD shooter fan and I don't play COD. At this rate I wont play Dust because it is meant for EVE players not fans of the shooter genre. When did EVE players become hardcore shooters? If Dust were to be good the shooter fanatics would put money in to Dust as well. If only EVE players play Dust that wont make Dust a hit it'll be exactly what you said an expansion of EVE nothing more nothing less.

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    4. See u just made my point IM NOT A SHOOTER FAN AT ALL. Im an EVE player and we will support dust cuz its an expansion of EVE. See most if the eve players already know u will run to the next new shiny SHOOTER cuz thats what most console players do.

      This game is being made for hardcore shooters fans who actually want to have an impact other prestige lmao. You need to go research the Eve community and understand somethIng without us there is no ccp.

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    5. F2P sells on its own and does well, most FPS in a F2p senario outlast most MMO's the playerbase IS THERE, and really they dont need more expert shooter programers they already 1 up'd what zipper could ever do in just one patch, minimize lag. right now everything is solid it just needs more tweaking, we are still dealing with placeholders and whatnot in this game. beta is beta not a demo.

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    6. I know of lots of FPS players interested in this, but not so much in EVE. I think many Cconsole FPS gamers have been waiting for a company to take the training wheels off.

      DUST 514 is the only FPS that will offer something to hardcore FPS players and EVE players alike. Having real consequences for our actions will make the FPS part more meaningful.

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  8. ign guys are right. its still in beta but the core fps mechanics need work.

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  9. It's a great beta IMHO. Most people just get caught on the fittings and give up. It's all about effort, risk and reward. People aren't used to a FPS with depth. There is plenty of depth for those willing to invest the time and learn the game. BTW you quoted me. I was the guy that took two days to figure it out ;-)

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  10. Alot of you people dont like it but for this game to succeed you need the COD & Battlefield types

    This game will not survive if they are catering to this current audience. Which at the moment is mainly MAG and EVE players

    And alot of them dont even like Dust

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    1. This game caters more to EVE players than MAG most MAG players don't like. MAG had a decent amount of people on at launch and a much better number than Dust has when it was in beta. If anything Dust 514 plays more like a horrible BF2142!

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  11. The REGIS just sits back and laughs. What The REGIS has been preaching for 2 and a half months is coming to light now! Fanboys say oh it's a beta it shouldn't be fun LOL "BULLSHIT" I wouldn't work at a job I don't like why would I beta test a game that is horrible! If they don't get the core mechanics down for the FPS side the game will be a F2P joke with only EVE players playing it! I thought the ex Dice guys that did Homefront was helping CCP with this it makes no since that the beta is in this state seeing how they have experience with this engine...

    Homefront was a turd but Dust makes it look like a golden egg! The first beta invites sony sent out were 5,000 and that's before the EVE subs and fanfest people got in. Yet the most the beta had in one night was 3,000 once and creeps along around 400 to 500 on weekends. Hate me or love me for it the game will bomb if the shooting mechanics stink. Might as well give everyone a sword and some spells...

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    1. theschizogeniousJuly 31, 2012 at 7:57 AM

      the regis needs to stop talking in third person because all it does is make the regis look like an insufferable douchebag.

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    2. theschziogeniousJuly 31, 2012 at 8:10 AM

      and the game looks fantastic granted that certain areas could use improve ment but thats true with any game.

      ive been in the beta for about 2 1/2 months and have seen the improvements made and am happy with the overall direction the beta has taken.

      imho it is handling just like any fps especially lolcod theyre trying to do there own thing and help theyre game find its niche in a market dominated by generic fps' that are all basically the same thing.

      you need to give it time instead of just throwing it away based on first impressions.

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    3. What makes you think The REGIS cares if you think he is a douchebag for talking in third person. LOL For thinking about what others think of me on the internet!

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    4. You obviously care enough to respond you douche.

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  12. Could you like fix your site background one day? site looks horrible: http://i.imgur.com/82GCT.png

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  13. You guys understand perpetual development right?

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    1. Do you understand that it takes years to re-make a game and that Dust 514 has few months left?
      Or you really believe that they can turn lead into gold and do in few months what they coudl not in 3 YEARS!
      Also all franchises are a perpetual development: CCP release expansion for EVE while DICE simply release BF 4 instead then BF 3 ver 4.0 Inferno Expansion!
      Frankly Halo is 10 years old and it's pretty much been perpetual development delivered throught more then one game.

      Bungie is making FPS MMO (Destiny) and THEY won't fail the FPS mechanics.
      The RPG side of Destiny will also be easy for to deliver because Destiny is developed for Activision and they will provide Bungie with he right help/people to deliver the MMO aspects...after all Acti made the most successful MMO ever, like it or not!

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    2. Yeah, 4 sure you have seen a lot about "destiny" right?

      They have just released first an alpha, later the beta (with was 100% like the alpha and later the new build to the beta what have changed a great amount of mechanichs, skill tree, graphics and more. You dont know a shit about what has they done, Have you read anything about how many planets there will be in the game? 4 sure you havent...

      Dont like it? dont play it... I will

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    3. you guys know that there is no KITTEN timeline, its just a go with the flow nature at the moment nothing is set in stone.

      and to the guy whose comments roughly 10yrs of perpetual development in reference to halo is lulz

      and activision helping bungy make an MMO(if your refering to the blizzard side) that will be full of fail especially when blizzard will more than likely be too busy making their WoW successor to give them too much time other than helping hands. placing faith in activision is like a worn out bridge held up with duct tape...wont work for long.

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  14. NDA hammer incoming

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  15. the brian cox syndrome.

    Most hear " wow awesome game" then the word FREE. they do not accept it is in Beta, they expect an end game like all other FPS. those 400-500 weekend players are hardcore beta testers going hammer and nail giving CCP the biggest section of feedback.

    The rest just download the game, see it is a BETA test, and give up thats why there are fewer players. Also those beta codes end soon they are not unlimited betacodes, but only allow play for a weekend.

    to gain everything possible in the dust game would take you seven years constant play. and by then more skills would have been injected into the skill tree system. meaning another 4 yrs play. short term games go play MAG, COD, HALO.

    you want a long term playable game, well dust 514 gives you that

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    1. People still play Halo because it's an amazing franchise AND IT'S FUNNY.
      Sam thing for Super Mario, Zelda, MGS, Tekken, BF, COD, etc...
      Also unlocking in-game skills is not exactly a great reason to play a FPS, maybe a RPG, but not FPS.

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    2. To be fair if you look at ALL the fps that have come out in recent years....then all those games have rpg elements, in call of duty you don't go shooting people just for fun you do it to get perks, level up and get better gear....its so sad to think people buy the game for killing people...yes its a part of it but its not enough to keep you playing and that's where the "skinner box" comes in...activision/blizzard are masters of that mechanic and practicably all the blizzard games use that system, diablo is a perfect example of this.
      Its a cheap way of holding your audiences attention and its growing old in the yearly COD game.
      COD games have ruined what playing an fps is and now its practicably mandatory to have instant gratification mechanics in every game or else they don't sell as well and are considered "lame" they don't require team-work, they don't require patience and they don't require you to THINK...
      Its basically zombie mode but you are the zombie and you lack brain power....Halo is just as guilty as the others of this!

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    3. Dust514 long term playable game? HAHAHA unless they make major changes this game will be lucky to last 2 years

      Im already predicting a year after launch there will only be few thousand people still playing

      Its got EPIC FAIL written all over it

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    4. ^^^ you know nothing of the industry

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  16. Wow, this shit blog is still being updated?

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    1. and your posting just helps further that good job numbnuts.

      you dont like this blog, no one is forcing you to log into here.

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  17. LOL awesome how people dont know a fucking shit!

    Make me a favor... DONT PLAY DUST 514 NEVER...

    I know about what im talking and believe me, this will be one of the best games of 2012 - 2013... You cant wait a fuking bit and the most people of you havent read a shit about all CCP have spoked so, great, unninstall it and forgot it, we dont need stupid people without patience in there.

    PD: IGN, what re your opinion about COD franchise? if 4 most people COD re great then Dust should be awesome...

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    1. LOL No Dust is not awesome and yes I know it's a beta. But /i've played Alphas better than this trash.

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  18. How is Dust trash? Are you numbnuts jelly because you can't adapt to a new game? Perhaps you get spawn killed and are too stupid to spawn elsewhere. The game is fine, a little buggy, but all around fine. It's more rewarding than CoD where all you get is a little xp and faggot 12 year olds sending friend requests because you were the best in the match.

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  19. LOL COD is a shit game yes but what does Dust do? You kill someone you get skill points to level up... Sounds like every other shooter out there except it's bad! Would rather play Brink. Dust will only limp along because of EVE players

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    1. wow i didnt know we had a member of ccp in here :O

      he must be one because hes just spouting things off about the game in a manner that denotes that he has some knowledge that the rest off us dont.

      pray tell kind troll how you gained any insight into dust outside of what is in the beta.

      which by the way is running on an old build not as old as the previous one but still a fairly aged build.


      all these whining bitching moaning twelve year olds can go kindly open the door and throw themselves out.

      head back to your lolcod with your spray and praying "oh i got knifed, the other guy is glitching lets try to get him banned" middle school bull shit.

      noone is forcing you to read this nor play the game you dont like the game just say you dont and leave noone's holding a gun to your head forcing you to play it.

      i cant explain in detail publicly the levels of fail you hav achieved by voicing your naieve opinion that is based on what? not much

      but if you were truly in the beta then you would be on the forums and see just how dedicated the "few hundred" gamers are btw on over the weekend and there were about 1500 on & just over 800 the week before.

      have a nice day- jk :D

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    2. with all due respect, just for the record:

      at those rates, maybe by 2015, you might have enough people to have an actual clan battle.

      Peace
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    3. its idiot after fucking idiot in here that only has just enough blood running to the wrong brain. the fucking asumptions over a very incomplete game is painful, retardedly painful.

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    4. man dude, what's wrong?
      your vaginal sling slipping?

      the dude himself said 1500 up from 800

      during mags first closed beta, it's best version, it had 75,000 players at one point. that's equal to roughly what bf3 has on any given day.

      you can vage about all you want, but the numbers aren't supporting your tantrum.

      Peace
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    5. the reason that their arent that many numbers is because theyve been testing the core gameplay rightnow and dont need thousands of people in the beta right now to test the 50 guns or so that you can use so far.

      they are just starting to do other things in the beta that i cant say because of the nda but you can be sure that its only going to get better. you can have your opinion and ill have mine as i said before no one is making you play this game.

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  20. Dust is a shit game. A bunch of faggots thinking they are politicians.

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    1. It also has shitty FPS mechanics

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    2. same beta forum trolls are present and circle jerking each other off, im not impressed

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  21. Better than a bunch of faggots who think they're cool because they can knife everyone and quick scope.

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  22. Ummm....clunky FPS mechanics, let that argue for itself. Here's an idea CCP. Strip all the exp level up mmo bullshit, give everyone the same weapons and armor then work on your FPS aspect you got a long way to go man if you don't want to insta-fail

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    1. Yea make it like every other FPS game we have with levels and unlocks and its name shall be...

      Call of DUST Battlefield warfare 514


      CCP are shaking the FPS genre up a bit because its fucking stale and every new FPS is a damn COD clone with nothing fucking different except the damn title

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    2. dont forget the cash cow on the end of it, Elite-Premium because "we as programmers at activision could not in a 2yr cycle implement basic clan functions into the next game because that would require programmers to TRY"

      fuck the hollow ass game you want it to be id rather see it bring a new wave of devs who care and try then regurgitated shit year after year that bandwagon fags continuously buy.

      but if thats what the gaming community boils down to i think alot of us are happy to hang up our controllers and never spend another buck because our fellow gamers are just too retarded without their Ritalin to give to shits.

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